Diwali Requested Again to be Bernards School Holiday
Parent approaches Bernards Board of Education as school officials prepare to re-examine future school calendars.
For more than a year, parents and some students who are Indian-American have attended Board of Education meetings with the persistent request that school officials make Diwali, the Indian festival of lights, into a day off from school so that their children might fully partake of the holiday.
Monday's meeting, the annual reorganization of the school board, was no exception. One parent, Rippi Karda, told the board about how her daughters' enjoyment of a family-oriented day was hampered by their worry about showing up at school the next day without having completed the work that their classmates have done.
Karda said she explained that the school does not require students to do homework on the day of a religious holiday. Diwali this year fell in November.
Still, she said her elementary school student asked her what would happen when she had not practiced her words in class or was prepared in other ways for school, as were the other children.
During Monday's meeting, Board Member Beverly Cwerner reported the board's policy committee will be looking at starting the school year earlier, and ending earlier in future school years, as well as reviewing such issues as a request to add the Indian holiday of Diwali to the school calendar.
And even before Karda spoke, two other parents, Michele Cappola and Karen Gray, had made comments on the issues of school holidays.
Cappola said that although she respects those who want to practice their religions, she said the district should stop scheduling days off for individual religious holidays. She said she herself would be willing to give up holidays such as a day off for Good Friday.
She later said that she specifically was referring to all religious holidays, not just Good Friday.
Gray said she wanted to raise the idea of a "floating religious holiday" that students could observe as appropriate with their families.
Karda, who lives in The Hills, said her family had moved to Bernards Township for the schools and the diversity of the community. She said her family also recognizes Christmas and Hanukkah in her home, and said her daughters respect their friends' religions. She said she would like for her daughters' religion to receive the same respect in the school, and an understanding of Diwali would enrich the "melting pot" in the school system.
As have other speakers, Karda said that the township's demographic study shows that about nine perecent of the township's population is of Indian background. "That's not an insignificant number."
LC
4:02 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
With all due respect, someone who observes Diwali, Christmas, and Chanukah sounds a bit mixed up to me.
pg
10:57 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Sounds super cool to me. Her kids will grow up to believe that all religions lead to one path and hence celebrate and cherish them all. They will be respectful and accepting of every faith. If we could all teach our children the same way the world would be a very peaceful place.
JR
11:09 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
It is called religious tolerance. One who does not care just about her/his own religion but respects the others too and expects the same from everyone else.
Linda
10:00 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
I couldn't agree more!
Ann
4:31 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
I am saddened that Ms Capoa would be willing to give up such an important (notice I didn't say "popular") holiday such as Good Friday, which is arguably one of the most important days of the church year. Perhaps a better choice would be the day after Thanksgiving, or something similar.
HK
5:17 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Although Hanukkah is acknowledged as a religious holiday, the schools are not always closed for the holiday. In 2013 Hanukkah will be celebrated from 11/27- 12/5 and there will be no official school closing during this time, specific to Hanukkah. As always,Winter Recess revolves around Xmas, not Hanukkah. Spring Recess revolves around Easter, not Passover. If the holiday is important enough to the family, perhaps they can take it upon themselves to make it an official holiday for themselves. Rather than try and change an entire school calendar, perhaps it would be easier to make your own family time, just as I have done when I felt it necessary to observe our religious holidays.
Public Schools
10:55 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
HK, I agree.
Though the winter break is around Christmas it is also around New Year. It is already called Winter Break in the schools so not to bring in religion. We all grew up with it. Jewish, Christian etc. It is a time in our country that has been and is. End of year, enjoy your family, take a break and begin again. Many large corporations in the area are closed between the week of Christmas and New Year. So more parents have that time off to be with their families. This is just a break, religious for some and not for others.
Spring Recess does not go with Easter. This year our break is in April and Easter is in March. I wish that Spring Break never coincided with Easter. Any travel is 3xs the price when coupled with the holiday. The next two years on the existing schedule Easter is at the same time as Spring Break. To my family, it is disappointing because we wont pay the amount charged for trips over that time. The point is, Spring Break does not always coincide with Easter.
But your point is right on. You sound like a parent doing the right thing. It is your family, your time, your choice.
esther
10:21 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
I am replying to Public Schools' comment below. The week off in December is only recently referred to as winter break. Do not insult my intelligence. It is centered around Christmas, has always been centered around Christmas, is intended to center around Christmas and if other holidays just happen to fall during that week it has been and always will be considered a coincidence. Businesses choose that time of year to close because it's easier to give people that time off and limit your business because only retailers are truly busy with returns from the holiday purchases. To say that it is not centered around Christianity is disingenuous. And your objection to spring vacation coinciding with Easter hurts your pocketbook iso you can travel is only one of the self-serving comments you made in your diatribe. You are not in touch with the changing fabric of Bernards Township. Too bad for you.
NL
8:45 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
We are fortunate to live in a town with tremendous diversity in ethnicity, culture and religion. There are many other religious holidays that are observed in addition to Diwali throughout the year. Where do you draw the line on which ones should be school holidays. If Ms. Karda feels strongly that her child needs to take a day off from school to observe, than please by all means do so. But with all due respect, please do not make thoe ~90 % of us saddled with additional work and childcare challenges.
b flake
9:01 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
If parents want to take Diwali off, then keep your kids home for Diwali. But the vast majority of the teachers and kids are not taking Diwali off, so suck it up. If you want Diwali off, move to India.
esther
10:26 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
This country is made up of hard working immigrants. To suggest that people who want Diwali off should move to India is quite simply appalling. It's lucky you write under some pseudonym so people who you pretend to tolerate won't really know what you think of them and you spare them. Would you have said that to someone's face? I think not. Hope you're not one of my friends.
Basking Ridge
12:57 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
The ignorance of those who don't celebrate Diwali is absolutely insulting. It is an extremely important holiday and should be recognized by the school in some way. It is easy to see where Ms Karda's concerns are stemming from. There is absolutely no reason one should told be told to "move to India" due to the fact they repect their religion. If you can't respond to someone's opinions in a professional, knowledgeable and appropriate manner, don't bother discussing the subject at all.
NL
6:31 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
While I don't support the "move to India" comment, your suggestion that people that do not celebrate Diwali is "ignorant" is "insulting" also. Here in the US, we have the freedom of religion so whether we want to celebrate it or not is our choice. What is important to you may not be to others. I suggest you use your words wisely when you respond and respect the opinions of others.
esther
10:27 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
I agree with you Basking Ridge.
oldmanjersey
7:32 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
How about we include the Epiphany, Chinese New Year (a whole week in February, Easter Monday, Purim, Shavuot, Sukkot, Immaculate Conception and Republic Day and Independence Day for any country that is represented in town. We can cut the school year from 180 days to 160. Then we can use all that money we have saved for college to add a small addition to our homes. We will need it because when our kids do not make it into good colleges and universities due to attempts of the school board to placate everyone in town, they will be staying with us forever, starting with their commute to our expanding stable of community colleges. All of our top universities will be attended by foreigners who chose to study while in school.
I apologize for the sarcasm. How about we just follow the federal holiday schedule and focus on education? No winners, no losers in the battle for "my holiday". Teachers and staff can and should be directed to avoid "heavy" workloads on days that may "stress" students so that they can take a personal day.
Linda
10:04 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
Finally, someone gets it!!!!
Basking Ridge Parent
8:15 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
We should not add Diwali. We should focus on having our children IN school. Our schools do a great job acknowledging many holidays. Remember, while our BOE does a great job listening to parents, THIS IS PUBLIC SCHOOL. You want more, go private. Go to: www.state.nj.us/education/genfo/holidays.htm for the states words on student rites for holidays not deemed as days off from school. Clearly no child suffers.
The State website is clear STRAIGHT FACTS AND NO EMOTION which is how the BOE should look at this topic. I think it is appalling the lack of care of timing for the push for Diwali. Our schools were closed due to Sandy and at the first BOE meeting back (not this one being written about but in November) while the BOE is trying to figure out storm days for the current calender here are the Diwali representatives asking for the day off. If we had Diwali off this past November we could have come back from Sandy and then been off on November 13th for Diwali. We are a community that is pro education, that is why our children are here in Basking Ridge, would that day off had been of any value to our children?
The BOE did a great job fixing our 2012-2013 schedule. Taking away an American Federal Holiday and looking at other holidays to skim from. We need our children in school. A child can handle missing a day of school and make up the work. We all make those choices without imposing on others.
BR
9:46 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
To be fair to all, why don't we take all the days off away from school including winter break, spring break, Good Friday, Rosh Hashanah etc. Do you think that would be fair?
V
8:30 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
As a pagean, I'm going to petition the school board to make Halloween a school holiday!
Miles
12:39 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Although I think you meant 'pagan'....I enjoyed your comment.
Linda
10:04 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
So funny!
RC
9:36 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Karda said that she moved here for the schools which I assume means the tremendous education afforded to the children in Bernards Township. When she moved here she knew the schools calendar did not include a day off for Diwali. The BOE is elected to continue to enhance and improve the education and learning skills our children receive. They should not be saddled with decisions as it relates to religion of any kind. If the Indian community wants to have the holiday recognized, please take this up the State of New Jersey Department of Education and allow our school board to focus on decisions that will continue to improve all of our children's experience in the classroom.
Public Schools
10:22 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Well said RC. I imagine the Board members are reading these notes. Their jobs have become so muddied over the years. They need to move on from this topic. Say no and start focusing on Safety and the work they do each day keeping our district strong and focus on education. They are in a thankless job. I admire them for all they do as Volunteers in our community.
RGMKT
10:17 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Once you start appeasing every minority group, you are on a very slippery slope - educate the children about various religious/cultural holidays in social studies.
Public Schools
10:18 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
I have very dear Indian friends who celebrate Diwali. All are well traveled and true adventurers. They have had no problem taking their children from school for a cruise, Disney, on a trip to Prague, Costa Rica, London, Beijing etc. Don't put parenting on the Board. Make choices for your own family regarding what days are important to you. Leave the Board to create a calendar where our children are in school and learning about holidays and important Americans (like MLK).
If a child is out of school make up the work. That is life; in school; in college; in a career.
Linda
10:05 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
Well said!
RGMKT
10:22 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Once you start appeasing every minority group, you are on a very slippery slope - educate the children about various religious/cultural holidays in social studies instead.
BR
12:27 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Hey RGMKT, to be fair to all, why don't we take all the days off away from school including winter break (Xmas week), Spring break, Good Friday, Rosh Hashanah etc. Do you think that would be fair?
Miles
12:45 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
What % of our school population is Indian...what % is Chinese? Would love to know these numbers because I guarantee they won't support another day off for the entire school system. I respect the fact that the Indian population has it's own religious holidays, but the PUBLIC school system can't take off every day that each ethnic/religious group wants off. I assume the Muslims will want off their religious days also? Where does it stop? I know it sounds callous (and I don't mean for it to), but you knew what this country was when you came here, so stop trying to change it. If you want this to be "India" then you should return to India.
Audrey
2:16 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
I love the ethnic diversity of this country and of this town. I love how we can learn about other cultures and holidays and share in their celebration. However, I am opposed to declaring official school days off for each ethnic group's holidays. As earlier posters have argued, where do you draw the line? There are plenty of Chinese students in the district, so if you add Diwali, why not add Chinese New Year as well? I'm not being facetious -- honestly, it would be a fair question to ask. And if you think about adding Diwali in that larger context, the answer has to be 'no'. Otherwise it would just open up a can of worms that this district doesn't need. There's no need for rude remarks -- I think we can have a civil discussion about this request. But then it is time for the Board to decide against it and focus their attention on more pressing issues.
HBSR
2:52 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
It is amazing to see so much of hatred towards other religious holidays in this township, especially when we know this is a diverse community. It is a shame to see how people can respond negatively with the choicest of words on articles written by journalists, but not have the courage or time to come out to the BOE meetings pick up that mic. and say these comments out loud. I guess people love spreading negativity around, hence such comments. We have our BOE members trying to expand horizons in getting children from our township to learn more about other cultures and religions encouraging different kind of celebrations in schools etc., on the other hand we have parents who dislike other cultures or holidays/religions because "THEY" do not want it to be given. Isn't it a little too unfair to say I want Christmas holidays for 10 days although Jesus Christ was born only on 25th, I want Winter break because I am used to it and I want "my family" to ski, I want Good Friday because I have been getting it in the past, although I spend half my day on the internet and not all day in church praying to GOD, I want Spring Break because "I have booked my family vacation" and I want 3 months summer break because "I want my family to go to the beach house. Never has the Indian community asked for the number of school days to be reduced, we have asked for the others holidays to be adjusted around to accommodate one Diwali, which is very much possible for the BOE members.
GOD bless!
NL
3:12 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Sure thing and while the BOE members are at it please ask them to adjust the schedule to accommodate the other 100+ ethnic/religious holidays that others may celebrate as well.
Public Schools
5:21 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
HBSR,
Your note is filled with so many assumptions. You assume no one on this thread has been to the mic at a meeting.
No one implied the Indian Community asked for a shorter year and your comment "to accommodate one Diwali" is interesting. Is it not putting your culture before others in the community to have their "one"?
You assume you know what community all those who choose to comment on this article represent. You are correct we have a diverse community. Might those of use writing be Asian? Might we be from South America? Might we be first generation immigrants? Might we be 7th generation immigrants?
You read hatred into these comments. I read disagreements. Is calling everyone who does not want Diwali on the calendar bigots next? How short sighted. Your comment "trying to expand horizons in getting children from our township to learn more about other cultures and religions encouraging different kind of celebrations in schools etc., on the other hand we have parents who dislike other cultures or holidays/religions because "THEY" do not want it to be given" is unfounded.
Your assumptions on what people do with their breaks reads as a comedy and made me laugh out loud. Thank you for that. Behind the comedy are more unfounded assumptions.
There is more to say but what I have learned over the years is when people have such opposing views there is no need to preach to each other. Preaching only sways those who don't have definite opinions.
RC
5:24 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
HBSR
You are not reading the same comments I am. I see no hatred in any of these comments. Just common sense. If you want to celebrate the holiday, keep your kids home until the State of New Jersey recognizes this as a school holiday, at which time Bernards Township will recognize as well.
I feel no hatred, but I must admit I feel extremely frustrated as I type this message.
You sense hatred and resentment yet I read about beach houses, ski vacations and family vacations.
Christmas Holidays for 10 days, please don't exaggerate. Please lump in Chanukah and New Years. I would stand next to you and complain with you that we celebrate 10 days for the birth of Jesus Christ.
Currently on 2 towns in all of NJ recognize the holiday on the school calendar....
NJ.COM Published: Sunday, October 23, 2011, 8:30 AM Updated: Sunday, October 23, 2011, 1:11 PM
"Of the approximately 9,100 students in the East Brunswicks 12 schools, McCartney said, about one-third are of Indian descent and many are of the Hindu faith."
Passaic is the only other district in the state that closes school for Diwali, the festival of lights.
A THIRD of the students are Indian. Not less than 1/10th.
RC
5:24 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Please take this up with the Star Ledger, and the State of New Jersey, not Bernards Township. Again, we will all support and recognize the holiday as soon as the state does.Stop distracting our BOE and putting them in an uncomfortable position each time they meet. They are only trying to improve our already competitive and very well respected curriculum and calendar.
HBSR
7:23 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
RC, what makes you think we have not approached the State and the Star Ledger. Easter is not a Federal Holiday http://www.govspot.com/ask/holidays.htm, and also for your information Bernards Township is the only township in the entire "Somerset County" with the February break. (What makes you think they are in an uncomfortable position and "Yes", we will help the BOE with information as and when they have asked us - they definitely need to know on why we are asking for Diwali to be recognized as an Indian Festival to be given as a day off.
HBSR
7:41 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Response to Public Schools - my comment was " why don't people on this thread come out to the BOE meetings pick up that mic. and say THESE comments out loud."
Please read your 6th stanza in the lengthy response and then read out your 4th stanza, keep reading it until you realize what you are trying to say.
Oh! BTW, please also read your first response to the article on "don't put parenting on the Board". Why did we have so many parents talking at the BOE meeting after Sandy, asking the BOE members to keep the spring holidays as well as the Feb holidays and to change the "Board Policy" since Sandy was one of a kind that crippled the entire town and asking Gov. Christie to waive off 5 school days.
My dear friend we can go on and on with our debate. Let's respect others to be respected!
Basking Ridge Parent
7:45 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Easter is on a Sunday.
HBSR
8:03 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
RC, I meant Good Friday is not a Federal Holiday.
Public Schools
8:12 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
HBSR,
I don't believe your topic has been on an agenda for any Board Meeting since the idea has been raised but brought up during public comment. I am sure if it were an actual agenda item you would have more attend. Public comment brings many topics. Anyone can speak to the board, no questions asked, no rebuttal. I am not reading any comments on this thread that can not be said in a conversation or in the public comment portion of a meeting. Other then the obvious comment about moving if you don't like it (paraphrase) which is a comment not worth addressing when having a real discussion on topic.
There is no venom in my words and the words of others that I am reading above who have written valid points.
My opinion stands as does yours, and so the world keeps turning.
BR-family
8:50 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
The demographics indicate we do have a fairly large Indian community in the school district and would like the Board to consider Diwali as a school Holiday. It would be beneficial for all Indian American families to celebrate the holiday and partake in all the festivities without being rushed or miss a day of instructional time at school. It is important for students of Indian origin to grow up knowing and experiencing their holiday and feeling accepted and integrated in the American community. This is what makes this country so unique and special......It is a melting pot of several cultures that have learned to live in harmony and respect each others beliefs. The 2 things that attract people to this school district is firstly the strong educational values and secondly the diversity. This school year we were happy to see the Board was able to accommodate 2 Jewish holidays and the rest of the community made the necessary arrangements for childcare etc. We hope the Board will get creative and make the same accommodations for Diwali as well. Also, please do not make comments such as ''if you want Diwali as a holiday, you need to go back to India" This town/country is as much our home as it is yours. We need to evolve as a community and adapt to changes in the demographics.
pg
10:31 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
The request for Diwali is justified, considering the demographics. I am so glad we have Yom Kippur, Rosh Hashanah, Good Friday, Christmas and MLK off. Would be so simple to take away the Feb break and keep all the above holidays and add Diwali. Wouldn’t it be wonderful for all children in our township to understand and appreciate each other’s cultures…..wouldn’t embracing diversity become a step toward educating our children about global citizenship. Don’t we want our children to broaden their horizons and not remain narrow and old fashioned in their thinking. Then why such hesitation.
NL
6:26 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
We support diversity and global citizenship. The State has made their position clear of such with clear guidelines to the BOE. By all means, take the day off as you wish. We just do not feel that it warrants a school holiday. There are other ethnic groups with larger demographics. Where do you draw the line? There is absolutely no hatred here, just a difference in opinion!
PT
7:09 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
I love how not wanting the holiday off from school is some how not embracing diversity. Seems to be the argument for everything. Don't like the answer blame racism and shortsightedness. Would the 4th of July be a day off from school in China? Africa? Sweden? Board please make your stand so we can move on to more important pressing matters that are happening in our country and how they mold our school system.
Linda
10:08 am on Monday, January 14, 2013
Obviously you don't have students in the High School.
V
10:53 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Ok, I've made my decision, NO Diwali , end of discussion.
Will the last one out please turn out the lights
baskridge
12:41 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Fact: The jewish community has TWO of their religious days off on the calender when they are less than 5% of the population. I respect both my jewish and my indian friends and their religions and cultures. Personally I do not want any more days off. Time to take a look at the calender.
b flake
7:01 pm on Monday, January 14, 2013
Keep your kids home on Diwali if its that important to you, make up for the time by hiring your own tutor for your kids so they can do school work over Christmas.
Linda Sadlouskos
1:28 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
It seems an essential part of this issue boils down to whether we want to keep a full week off each February and April — which has always seemed to be a popular arrangement in this community. But as another commenter pointed out, that isn't the case in many school districts, including neighboring Somerset Hills.
HBSR
10:30 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Linda, attached is the link to the website with the Somerset County District Calendar. Please do feel free to distribute this to people who cannot navigate to the calendar page so they can see in black and white, Bernards township is the only township with the one week February break ending with a last date around June 26th.
http://www.co.somerset.nj.us/schools/
Basking Ridge
5:39 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Here's a fun fact about our community: according to a valid and reliable source Basking Ridge's population is 4% Jewish and 9% South Asian. Tell me how the Jewish population can get two days off and the South Asian population can't even get one. I'm not saying that South Asians should have the day off, its just unfair for the small Jewish populations to have two days off. What is the most appalling about this issue is the lack of respect for other religions. Why can't everyone agree to disagree with the proposal instead of posting nasty and hateful comments? Shouldn't we be commending the South Asian community for being so passionate and persistent about their beliefs? Instead, the community is posting hurtful things to their friends, neighbors and co-workers. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and it should be respected. If you disagree with the proposal go attend a meeting and speak your mind. Using a fake alias on the internet to bash others makes you a coward.
NL
5:50 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
You are certainly not a coward because your real name is Basking Ridge. Is it Mr. or Mrs. Ridge by the way?
n
10:50 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
@Basking Ridge, I don't know where you got your fun facts, but I'm sure you are wrong on the % of Jewish residents. Let your kids take all the days off you want, just make sure they are prepared for their classes when they go back to school.
Laura
7:17 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
For the next two school years, (as it was in past years), there is only one day off for the Jewish holidays, but there are 3 days of important Jewish holidays (actually many more, including Passover). So Jewish kids, and teachers, do miss at least one day taking off for Yom Kippur, and as Rosh Hashana is traditionally a two day holiday, many miss a second for that too. So taking one day off for Diwali or any other holiday presents no greater problem for those students. The key is to educate the district to make sure teachers schedule tests etc. to minimize problems for anyone absent for religious observance, and to communicate with your child's teacher. The kids who fast for Ramadan or can't eat bread on Passover, or have school the day after a late night Seder, all make adjustments, as they will do in the workplace someday.
RC
9:22 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Well said Laura, and that should close out the comments on this thread.
You have said it best with compromises on both sides. BOE adhering to a lighter work load and parents managing the decision for their children to attend school the following day can make adjustments. If parents choose to keep their children home, they can spend one of the built in days students are allowed to miss school.
This should also end the distractions at the BOE meetings.
Thanks Laura
HBSR
10:08 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
Laura, since you are being so practical and want other ethnic groups to adjust as they will do in workplace someday - recommend to the BOE that they take away all the religious holidays and the half day before Thanksgiving, Christmas etc. children will learn to adjust as they have to anyway learn to do it someday.
My friend - the school is legally supposed to be open only for 180 days out of the 352 days in a year. The problem people have here on this thread is that they want to be stuck on with their old school of thoughts and just do not want to embrace other ethnic groups. Nobody is asking for a school day to be reduced, all that is being asked is for other holidays to be adjusted to accommodate the 1 main day of Diwali (although Diwali is celebrated over 5 days). Even if other ethnic groups ask for a day off, our township can still function as well as it has been in the past and have a 180 day school calendar.
Our township is doing so well because of the diversity we have around and not because of certain number or sect of people so let's help the BOE decide in favor of the holiday and move on to other topics.
n
10:40 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
@HBSR, I thought there was only 365 days/year(366 for leap year)? I guess HBSR should've spent more time in school instead of taking time off for a holiday.
HBSR
11:03 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
N- U r just too funny :) I sure spent many more years than you did attending school/college, that is one reason why I am here explaining to people like "N" on why Diwali should be given a holiday as I did learn about global culture and not only the culture of the country I grew up in....wonder when people like you will ever grow up :)
n
11:40 pm on Thursday, January 10, 2013
@HBSR, I'm glad you think I'm funny, because I don't think you are. For a person who claims to have so much education, I would of thought you would know how to spell "you are", instead of "U r", and "I sure spent many more years than you", could've been written by a third grader. By the way, you are not "explaining to people like "N" on why Diwali should be given a holiday", you are just pushing your opinion. Please, before you comment anymore, maybe you can take a ESL class, since you must of missed that class during your "many more years of college".
Miles
8:44 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
HBSR: "that they want to be stuck on with their old school of thoughts"....this is the most insulting comment I've actually seen on this thread. My deepest apologies for still embracing the traditions and holidays that my country has honored and kept for the past 200 years. So, it sounds like, you think we should get rid of all these ridiculous "old school" holidays and add new ones. Ridiculous.
NL
8:59 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
Miles...agree! HBSR is the one who said "Let's respect others to be respected" but then goes on to criticize our celebration of Thanksgiving and Christimas holidays. Both ridiculous and hypocritcal.
BR
9:12 am on Friday, January 11, 2013
Dear Miles, I think you're not reading it correctly. What HBSR is trying to say is that if you really wanted to be fair and let children learn how to make adjustment in real life then mind as well take away all the religious holidays. HBSR is not referring that old school holidays be taken away and it should be replaced with new ones.
Mexico
1:56 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
HBSR and Ester are hostile in tone. Yes, Americans want their country as they grew up. We take off for Christmas Break which includes New Year. Will you start going after Novartis for doing the same? Or just a public school board?
Many immigrants, including myself, moved her for America and what it offers. For how it is. I am happy to blend with America not try to change it.
You are in a different country stop spit on it. You talk about Americans like they are dogs. It is sad what HSBR represents, hatred. Putting down Americans for how you found them. No one forced you to move here. I am happy to be new to the country. Stop writing with this Bozo. And Ester, the quick commentary is not even worth noting. I love this country. The special days in my culture are not off from school I do for my family what I need.
Forget writing them it is not worth it. I love America.
Italian Dad
2:26 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
All this talk about how those against Diwali being on the school calendar; cant embrace diversity, make an adjustment, feel sorry for you, ignorant, are less educated, disingenuous, want things a certain way because it will hurt their pocketbook, internet shop on good friday says to me that the Indian Community that is spitting this venom have not embraced where they have moved to, made the adjustment, been educated on those who celebrate the Christian and Jewish holidays, can't mix with the American population they moved in with. I never looked at the Indian community like this before. Very sad to read that there is so much hatred for the country they moved to. Thank you Mexico for the immigrants voice of someone who loves being here. My parents came from Italy we were brought up with the American traditions as well as our own. Thanksgiving has become one of our favorite holidays. I love that my parents learned English and have friends of all cultures here in America. I think the writers who are anti American should take their own advice and turn their word on themselves. What a terrible way to represent their culture.
You are right Mexico writing them is not worth it.
BusyMom
3:40 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
Wow, that's a lot of comments! I carefully read all of them, sometimes I got the feeling that people just refuse to hear each other.
What I learnt is that Indian community (or maybe I should say Aisan, since not only Indians celebrate it) wants Diwali to become an official day off in Basking Ridge schools and is very upset that other 90% do not like this idea. I got the feeling that people who would like Diwali to become an official day off ascribe protest of others to their ignorance and intolerance to other cultures. The part of the community that opposes the day off, on the other hand, has nothing against Diwali per say, they just don't like to deal with the consequences which are kids missing a day of learning, making child care arrangements or taking an unnecessary day off from work, and etc. I tried to educate myself on how Diwali is celebrated. From what I learned, Diwali is a religious holiday that consists of 3 to 5 days of celebration and it is an official holiday in number of Asian countries. And please correct me if I wrong, the celebration include cleaning the house (which is done on the first day), decorating the house with traditional motifs. And on the most important day of a festival, which is being requested as a day off, people wear new clothes, burn lamps at night, eat traditional meal and exchange gifts. I am sorry, but I don't understand why it is so important to have a full day off for that.
BusyMom
3:57 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
I'm just finishing my comment:)
So, after school hours are not enough for above mentioned activities? I could understand orthodox christians asking for a day off on some religious holidays, celebration of which includes a special All-Night Vigil that is celebrated from late at night on the eve of the feast until early the next morning. And it is usually followed by a breakfast feast shared together by the congregation. I don't say I would support it, I'm just saying I could understand it. It's hard to go to school if you spent the whole night in a church. I case of Diwali, I think it's reasonable to ask not to give kids home work on that day and not to schedule any tests on a day of Diwali and the day after.
BRCIT
10:32 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
BusyMom - Your forgot to find in your research, that Hindus - for whom this is a high religious holiday and who make up more than 90% of the BR population - have on each of the these days religious prayers and services that are done at the beginning and at the end of each day. While the services are smaller and more informal in the preceding days ,the day of Diwali - wearing new clothes, distributing gifts and all the things you mention - are but a celebration - the most important event as I know growing with people of the Hindu faith and observing their practices, is the prayer service - the main Pooja. It's not all eating , dressing up and cleaning the home. And by the way - the eating on a big religious day is more often than not preceded by a day of fasting by many.
BRCIT
10:33 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
I mean -90% of the Indian population in BR
V
8:37 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
HSBC
Why do you say this township is doing so well because of its diversity?
That's just politically correct nonsense! The anger this thread and the mosque application are generating are just a few examples of how diversity is starting to affect this town negatively
baskridge
10:25 pm on Friday, January 11, 2013
As a third generation American, I absolutely love the diversity in this town. Appalled at some of the comments. Sorry to see how some people are taking it too far with the insults. Everybody posting mean spirited and nasty comments in the name of a healthy discussion should restrain themselves from doing that. As someone suggested.........time to turn the lights out on this one.
Linda Sadlouskos
10:54 am on Saturday, January 12, 2013
Perhaps it is time to bring respectful comments before the Board of Education, since they are discussing future calendars at this time. The next scheduled meeting is 7 p.m. on Jan. 28 at the William Annin Middle School.
b flake
1:48 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
Basking Ridge has thousands of squirrels, accordingly I believe the kids should have a formal holiday for National Squirrel Appreciation Day.
Linda
9:22 pm on Tuesday, January 22, 2013
This is a very slippery slope... after Diwali is added, then Chinese New Year, then Halloween.... you are right it will be Squirrel Appreciation Day! They have the numbers and apparently that is most important.
This is a PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM people! You want YOUR religious days off? Go to a Religious School! Let's get back to Separation of Church & State... what America is founded in.. you have rights to go elsewhere....