Hope to hear a positive outcome! I moved to Bernards because Pleasant Valley was pesticide free. So important for our health when our kids and pets are playing in the grass. They breathe it, they ingest it when they put their hands to their mouth, and it seeps into their skin when they roll around in it. Health is more important than property values, I would think, not that you even have to sacrifice property values for health. Besides the healthcare costs associated are so much more expensive than the alternative pesticides or the perceived loss in property value..

my relative lives in this particular development & is highly allergic to the chemicals they are using. The board is un-moving and stubborn. You know the saying "absolute power corrupts".....Board members are usually people with no lives who like power. Hence, the problems.

Yes board members are working people who volunteer their personal time to make the community a better place but few illiterates and Psychologically disturbed people have nothing to do other than Criticizing other people. If you have problems then you should not live in a community but live in a single family house so you can dictate your terms. Just because you have problem does not mean others have to deal with it. Chemicals are first approved by FDA and other government agencies before using in commercial places. Take your issue to the Government and argue your point with them not with the honorary board members. They are just doing their job.

How many other chemicals were approved by the FDA and later been found to cause serious health/environmental problems and banned from use? The FDA does what they can, but are clearly not infallible.

I fully expect that herbicides and pesticides will ultimately found to be the cause of autism and asperger's syndrome. We already know that these chemicals are finishing off the bee population, and once they are gone, say goodbye to fruits and vegetables. Fertilizers are killing our oceans. Green grass is nice, but at what price?

OMG is the sky is falling! Should we go back to the dark ages where we have no Vaccination or pesticide? Most Ag-chemicals have been with us since the 40's

Thomas Adams - you are living with your head in the sand. Pesticides have caused us a multitude of woes....Bev - I hope you win the fight. Your board sounds like it belongs in Calif --- the land of "fruits flakes and nuts"

JG the only person who should use their brain is you, obviously you are no better this board who has been the lime since this morning. You really need to your home work lady.

Bev - i heard you on NJ radio 101.5 last night. My husband and I were driving and our eyes got big as a close relation of ours lives in Society hill. I am sure you know her. She is the one whose throat closes due to allergic reaction to the weed killer. I also mailed a letter to Bernardsville News....I hope it gets printed in next week's 'paper.

Bev - I think JG is Stonely! His name fits him......he has a heart of STONE

thomas adams is a fake....he is probably the Ass'n president of Spring Ridge, another board who has a bunch of dum-dums running it

It's really discouraging to hear the association reference the need to maintain property values as a justification for spraying poison in its own backyard. Lots of luck, Beverly.

if people KNEW what was going on, they wouldn't move into Society HIll BECAUSE OF THE BOARD, not because of the weeds!!!!!

Spring Ridge Board harrassed a man because he was out of work for awhile, drove a school bus to pay his bills, and parked his school bus for 3 hours per day in front of his house. HARRASSMENT!!! All because a man is trying to work, save gas money, and provide for his family.

If you would like to learn more about trimec 992, the label may be seen here:
http://www.pbigordon.com/pdfs/Trimec992-SL.pdf

Note the part where if you inhale it you should call a poison control center immediately. This stuff poisons fish and should not be used where it can wind up in groundwater. It is illegal to use it in California, and was the subject of a class action suit.

I told my relative who lives in Society Hill to call ASK ASA on channel 7 (or is it channel 4?) news....he is fabulous. We need to expose these chemical hooligans for who they are....power hungry narcissists

wifebert thank you so much for that little info, but when you are dealing with Control Freaks who have no regard for us homeowners.

Jawce: I know that you relative had a note from the doctor and they still ignore it and did not care less. I believe it was change 4 and we will definately contact them the first thing Monday Morning. The more exposure the better. You are all welcome to join in.

I used to work for a veterinarian in town, and was amazed at the number of dogs that get cancer. With the chance of a baby in NJ having autism now at something like 1 in 99, why indiscriminately spray poisons while the jury is still out as to the cause of very serious diseases. They might want to think about their special ed budget as these things may be related.

Wifebert, I am in tears since I know that dogs can get cancer and die, My tara was one of them. You do not know how much this means to me for you to put this out there. Thank you and God Bless you always.
BP

Don't you have better things to do with your time than post 14 responses in less than 12 hours on a community newspaper website? This is clearly not a stand against potentially unhealthy pesticides but more a personal vendetta against members of a board in a housing development. Please do everyone a favor and find another hobby. Or better yet, if you're so unhappy, move!

First of all Tommy Urkey you must be one of them who thinks that you are better then anyone. If you have no regards for anyone who their concerns then I would suggest that you mind you business. We leave here and if they want green chemical grass then they should move.

It takes me 3 sec to type a message. I don't find it a waste of time. I find YOU, Mr. Urkey, to be particularly IRKSOME and rude.

It is futile to argue here as i think it is done when you have a equal or better opponent. Thomas and Tommy we don't belong here. Lets stop posting comment and hopefully these people will stop complaining.

First of all your Health ,Safety and respect for homeowners is far from a vendetta , if you truly feel that this is what this is all about then you should go to the Town of Bernards and tell them that there resolution with the borad of health is a vendetta as well. You people have your opinion olive and thomas but you really need to get your facts in line so your Stupidity does not show. Papers, Doctors Lawyers do not fight for something that is not coreect. The only vendetta here is the Bruce Stonely who refuses to lisen to the community and try to come up with a solution. So I will assume you live here and are ok with chemiclas. Another fact why when he was not in control this problem was corrected and now back to his childish ways. Vendetta is from the board with the homowners.

"Refuses to listen to the community".. which community are you talking about? You and your few friends. I don't think entire community has problems as no one has ever brought this issue. You are the one who started this and formed a lobby of your few friends and neighbors who are supporting you in this irrational and trivial effort without knowing the implications of not treating the lawn. Besides the aesthetics of the property it will also increase pest and insects which you might be ok with but not everyone.

This is more than just a case of clover. That lawn has chickweed, dandylions, crabgrass, broadleaf grass, etc. and very little natural grass. It is an eyesore. If I lived in that building I would be furious as the curb appeal is horrendous, and thus the value is decreased in an already soft real estate market.. So 1 unit dictates how 443 other units must live? I thought this was COMMUNITY living. All lawn treatments are subject to federal, state and county approval and guidelines. They are very strict and monitor all landcaping companies. Notice is placed well in advance and lawns marked. This individual is just a trouble maker with no life and nothing better to do than to make her neighbors annoyed. The very same woman who dyes her hair on a regular basis, which also contain chemicals. Maybe she should contact the hair dye companies and complain to them that their product has caused her to lose her mind ! Try moving to Alaska.

Oh Scooter how ignorant can you be since I truly know who this is, Please get a life of your own. You and the rest of them have no regard for people nor their concerns. I Guess you are calling the town stupid as well. The board of health does not know what they are talking about either in your eyes. Why don't you move to Alaska and stay there. Ignorance is bliss around here and you do not live in this bldg so mine your own business. Trouble makers stand to be on your side of the street. Ashame that other communities have stop all of their chemicals and respected their home owners. For your information English place is all on board. So pleas get your facts together. Just another example how board people disrepect the homwners. you know who you are....
Society Hill Two has much more common sense and their board, then Society Hill One will every have. So how is all this effecting the property values now??? We are well aware of that some person who has their own landscaper come, please let us know where that is in our by laws. So what is good for you should be good for everyone. We have no problem hiring our own landscapers.

Hey you just live in that building and not own that entire building so speak for yourself. I am sure not all the owners and tenants agree to your Organic thoughts free from chemicals.LOL

I have tons of work to do besides replying to your comments and arguing with you. I am done with this.

It is about time. Oh Scooter do not look this way turn your head the other and mine you business because you do not live in this bldg.

Your efforts would be better spent learning how to effectively communicate using correct grammar, spelling and punctuation. Perhaps if you could form a coherent argument then people would be more inclined to consider your opinion.

Hey Tommy Urkey I believe that JAWCE described you pretty well. Facts are Facts that will never change.

Mr Urkey - I find you irksome. First of all, I wrote and published a novel. My grammatical skills and spelling skills are just about perfect. Though Bev may express herself with a myriad of typos, her message is crystal clear. You are attempting to divert everyone's attention to someone's lack of writing skills rather than focus on the issue at hand......CANCER CAUSING CHEMICALS.

thank you Jawce you are so correct, I am not perfect by I know my stuff. Thank you again could not agree with you more. Scooter, Tommy and Jg are all one of a kind in the same group. read earlier today and you will see Scooter lives not to far from this bldg. Get my Thrift.

I don't understand why the one person above suggests that property values would be supported by turning the property into a toxic waste dump? I'd happily pay more, not less, for real estate maintained without lawn chemicals. What's cancer cost?

John S you are so very intelligent and have much more common sense. Thank you for posting.

Beverly: I would like to come and support your cause on June 26th, where and what time?

Maria

Hi Maria,

It is being Held at the town hall in the court room upstairs. Please spread the word and let everyone know more numbers hopefully better results. Thank you

did you all read the BERNARDSVILLE NEWS yesterday? Justice will prevail! See y'all at the June 26 meeting!

While what Scooter above says seems harsh - I have to agree with him.

Localnj harsh means nothing but common sense always will.

Jawce Yes it was great u will be at the meeting on Wed as Well correct. People are very upset here. I can not even begin to tell you how many can not wait till the election. Front page and also a comment from a another person who has some common sense. I do have to agree though some Associations do care and others think it is their playground.

Are many of the commenters on this issue planning to be at tonight's (Tuesday, June 26) Township Committee meeting? Thanks, Linda

Scooter get you information straight first of all my husband was not embarrsed and the board did not shut us down. So as usally your ignorance shows even more, people like you are a disgrace to the society. I wonder why the board laughed at homowner so disrepectful, the town meeting by the way lady was great. The board needs to grow up and stop playing their childish baby games and includes you. Remember it is not about me but about the issue so stick it.

Scooter are you an adult? You sound like a lowlife. How dare you say someone needs to live in a trailer park. You sound like a bitter, hateful individual with no life. Just because people are disagreeing about the use of pesticides is no reason to call them "trailer park" people. I would NEVER advise anyone I know to live In Society Hill. My board (spring ridge) treats their people MUCH nicer. Greg Formica is a doll. He is firm but respectful and polite. He has class. Obviously the only class YOU have is all "low"

Jawce, You know how that meeting went and you know who got shut down. The ignorance of some people on that board is very disgraceful. Thank you for your comment.
It is truly a shame that a board has to single out homeowners because they do not agree with them. My husband if you remember, told a board member off. This board has no respect for the homeowners especially when you laugh in ones face. that poor man was very upset. I warned him this board is useless. All other HOA's have decent boards and respect their homowners.

I worked in Basking Ridge school system for awhile & the "take" on Society Hill (heard from parents talking) is that it is the "slums" of Basking Ridge anyway.....so why are you worrying about the lawn care? Society Hill ALREADY has a bad reputation due to nasty and belligerent board members.

P.S. - if it were me living there, I'd care LESS about dandelions growing on my lawn than whether or not I'd develop health problems and/or CANCER from the spraying. Who the hell cares about lawns if people who want to buy a condo find out there is a high rate of cancer victims living in Society Hill?

As an investor owner, I don't get to the SH1 often, but I have been aware of this ongoing saga of Petrallia for some time. I wonder if these folks that are so worried about weed control, do they apply this concern to other areas of their life? Do they only eat organic meats, vegetables and fruit? Probably not. I understand she is a regular sunbather at the pool..overexposure to UV rays causes skin cancer and melanoma. But this doesn't concern her. Her cohort in the neighbor hood, whose lawn is also a weed patch, is a chain smoker. No fear of cancer there?
How about this example of their character that has been recently told to me. Petrallia parks her car in a visitor spot, which is first come first served. When she has to go out, her cohort smoking friend drives over to the spot, waits for Petrallia to back her car out, and then puts her car in that spot. Effectively "reserving" it until Petrallia is done with errands, etc., then they reverse cars again. Not very neighborly. Add this to her general foul language, and I am glad my investment is not in her building. Tempest in a Tea Cup.

Beverly: how come you have the guts to show your real name but others, like "Scooter", hide behind a nickname? Who are you Scooter? What is your real name? Does it start with a "V"?

Good Morning Jawce, I know right, I have nothing to hide I have facts and only speak the facts.
Now who has the vendetta.
Even if it does start with a V do you really think IT will come forwarded. I challenged Scooter yesterday. STILL WAITING.

Beverly,

Your lawn is beautiful... for me to poop on.

Dear D, I always brag about what intelligent and insightful comments we (for the most part) get on the Basking Ridge Patch. Don't prove me wrong, and see if you can come up with something better. LS

Linda, this is definately a friend of someone on the board, that is why I refuse to answer or play in to garbage, so pathetic & disgraceful.

they can find out that person's IP address & find out who is writing such disgusting and childish cmments.

Great send me an IM on facebook and I will proceed with it. Than you. childish is not even the word for it.

I have lived in Society Hill for many, many years and am quite disenchanted by your incessant instigation of problems, Beverly. You consistently incite issues within the community and this current concern is just another incursion of yours. The validity of your argument was lost on me years ago as every year you seem to have some exaggerated issue within this community. If it was not the pesticide this time, surely it would have been some other ordeal that you deemed necessary for immediate eradication.

What I find incredibly interesting in reading through this thread is how absolutely hypocritical you are in the responses to these posts. Certainly, “D. Pinscher” responded childishly, but you calling “Scooter” a “low life” does not place you much better. Also, every time someone voices an opinion that is adverse to yours, you call them a “coward” and say they are or are in support of someone on the board. Is it not possible for people to voice their opinions on here without them being part of the board? If you really want an open forum for our residents to speak, I would suggest you remove the conspiracy theory from this.

Regardless of my own personal views with this current pesticide debate, I feel there is a more mature and tactful way to respond to many of these posts.

Look what I found in my email:

D Pinscher also commented on Some Society Hill Residents Want Hold on Lawn Chemicals.

"I have lived in Society Hill for many, many years and am quite disenchanted by your incessant instigation of problems, Beverly. You consistently incite issues within the community and this current concern is just another incursion of yours. The validity of your argument was lost on me years ago as every year you seem to have some exaggerated issue within this community. If it was not the pesticide this time, surely it would have been some other ordeal that you deemed necessary for immediate eradication. What I find incredibly interesting in reading through this thread is how absolutely hypocritical you are in the responses to these posts. Certainly, “D. Pinscher” responded childishly, but you calling “Scooter” a “low life” does not place you much better. Also, every time someone voices an opinion that is adverse to yours, you call them a “coward” and say they are or are in support of someone on the board. Is it not possible for people to voice their opinions on here without them being part of the board? If you really want an open forum for our residents to speak, I would suggest you remove the conspiracy theory from this. Regardless of my own personal views with this current pesticide debate, I feel there is a more mature and tactful way to respond to many of these posts."

the above blurb shows you that D. Pinscher is COMMENTING ON HIS OWN REMARK! D Pinscher is saying that D Pinscher responded childishly! How weird is that! That means he / she is logging in as two different people

Hysterical isn't it.

hello,
I am a resident of Society Hill I. The argument about pesticide really hadn't phased me for many years. After the last application however, my child developed a rash immediately after playing in the grass. This was approx 1 week after the application. Thankfully the rash disappeared within 20 minutes, but it scared the heck out of me. Could this have caused long term damage? I am concerned.

I believe the pesticide is a real danger and I am now very concerned about its use.

Concerned,
there is a new article that came up go throw the articles, We have switched to the IPM and after the election if people vote the proper way we will continue to move forward. I fought hard and will continue to keep an eye on this I promise. But check the article out. You do not have to worry any longer. NO BLANKET TREATMENTS ANY MORE. there will be an application going down next month but it is an organic fertilizer.